The ‘ Protection Society | 40

This episode was recorded at beautiful Bogus Basin Ski Resort outside of Boise Idaho. In this episode we talk about the Apostrophe Protection Society. We look at how this group has been able to passionately advocate for something they care about and how the technology of the day has allowed them to network and make an impact in the world. While the society may have shuddered its current efforts we discuss how there’s a good chance their passion will be carried forward by someone else.

Apostrophe Protection Society website:

CNN Article:


music by Dyalla Swain


hello and welcome to parking thought the
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curiosity meet gratitude my name is
Jacob and I’m glad you’re here today in
this edition we’re recording in an
intentionally noisy environment yeah
we’re gonna test out this new microphone
in a space that has some bit of some
background noise let me describe a
little bit about where I am I am sitting
on top of a mountain outside of Boise
Idaho yeah I’m I’m at bogus base and ski
lodge my youngest son here loves to ski
which absolutely terrifies me but he
loves to ski and so we show up to the
lodge about an hour before things really
start to get started because then I can
get a spot in the corner with an outlet
be able to look outside and just watch
the beautiful you know scenery outside
and be able to enjoy the day and while
I’m up here I tend to take my Saturday
projects and and do them with me while
I’m up here and it’s just kind of neat
skiing is a foreign activity to me my
son again he loves it he’s been doing it
for a couple years now and and racing in
that sort of stuff and and so it’s
foreign to me but it’s one of those
things where it just I don’t mind other
people appreciating it so today’s
episode is on the apostrophe protection
society which I’m pretty sure only a
very small number of this audience might
have heard it before right so the
apostrophe protection society started
back in with the intent to make
sure that the apostrophe was not gonna
get removed from language and and so
let’s go into the dictionary definition
of what the apostrophe is right so you
can read I’m getting this from the
Oxford English Dictionary half the
apostrophe is a punctuation mark used to
indicate either possession ie Harry’s
books or boys coats or the omission of
letters or numbers right and even the
Oxford English Dictionary acknowledges
that many people are uncertain when to
use an apostrophe and it’s confusion is
probably increased by the fact that it’s
often omitted
company names like Barclays Bank the
apostrophe should be used when
indicating possession as in soos cat or
Sue apostrophe s cat or the omission of
letters and numbers like he’s gone and
those sorts of things right so so we
have some confusion around the use of
the apostrophe and in a team of
some folks in England decided to to work
really hard to try to protect and
preserve the apostrophe and so the
website for the apostrophe Protection
Society a link to in the show notes
but it’s apostrophe org UK right and so
it was started in by a man named
John Richards who has you know been
doing this for a very long time and and
has decided to step away and I’ll read
you his statement is as far as leaving
he said with regret I announced that
after some years I have decided to
close the apostrophe protection Society
there are two reasons for this one is
that at I’m cutting back on my
commitments and the second is that fewer
organizations and individuals are now
caring about the correct use of the
apostrophe in the English language we
and our many supporters worldwide have
done our best but the ignorance and
laziness present in modern times have
won this website mastermind by John Hale
will however remain open for some time
for reference and interest and that’s
from November
signed John Richards and so close that
out there or end quote there what’s
interesting about the apostrophe
Preservation Society is I love it for a
few different reasons one is like I’ve
mentioned before if you were still
reading the news that’s on the newspaper
this would have never made the cut CNN
did cover it right when they did
announce the closure but it wasn’t you
know Anderson Cooper CNN it was somebody
else on CNN who kind of looks for things
like this on the internet and then
shares those insightful stories similar
what this podcast does but that’s this
is a little more of an intimate
conversation than what you would get
from a CNN the other thing that’s neat
about the website is while it was built
in it still looks like websites did
in now most of the websites been
shut down it’s missing some of its
features and things like that but it was
this like almost like the Wayback
Machine from going back to
seeing what web sites were like in
and I
loved it for that perspective I used to
use it as a training tool when I would
have new developers and we would try to
have to scope out the cost of updating
somebody’s website we would use the
apostrophe Preservation Society
and kind of math out okay what would
this cost to you update the website what
would what you know where how would you
transfer content that sort of stuff and
built estimates so we could practice and
learn how one another would build
estimates so the apostrophe Preservation
Society looks like websites did in
and it’s so wonderful to look at
remember that that’s the way the
internet was as I mentioned before we
were talking about YouTube YouTube
wasn’t destined to become what it was it
was built to become that and if we don’t
take the time to scale back and look at
where we started from it’s really hard
to appreciate where we’ve become where
we’ve be you know what things have
become and the apostrophe Federation
site never really seemed to evolve and
as far as a website goes into kind of
set of modern best practices or best UI
or Beck’s UX you know and and I wish
them well right these guys have done a
good job and and for their effort
they’re turning off their effort that
doesn’t mean the cause is lost that
doesn’t mean that this podcast is gonna
start supporting that cause of bringing
back the apostrophe right but I like to
look at it as this was this iteration of
making an effort and look at how they
did it and what can we learn from it and
and what’s been good about it and should
we include apostrophes now do we really
need them or is possessiveness
automatically understood by
understanding the language as its
constructed and having the conversation
about did we lose the apostrophe because
our technology couldn’t handle it
because computer systems couldn’t handle
an apostrophe s and names earlier on and
needed that push and now a lot of our
code can handle those sorts of things
right so so is it worth bringing back is
it worth carrying on is this how
language is going to evolve and so again
on this podcast we like to look at the
things that are beautiful about our
world better that are good and I think
that having this conversation is good I
really appreciate a gentleman running
that conversation up until his th year
right is tremendous and wonderful and
should be celebrated these guys did a
great job
just because they’re shutting off their
efforts doesn’t mean that that those who
are passionate about this subject should
shut off theirs and we live in an era in
a world where they can do that and it’s
totally okay I love that free speech you
know I spent years in the military
protecting people’s right to free speech
and I love that we can express ourselves
and what we’re passionate about in a way
that’s peaceable so hats off to the
gentlemen and ladies who have been a
part of the apostrophe of protection
society I have loved you know the fact
that you guys have had a voice and been
able to share it I just didn’t have a
strong opinion one way or the other
about pro or against the apostrophe but
just like the Flat Earth movement I
loved watching that conversation I loved
watching your conversation and and while
you may be shutting off your efforts I
know they will continue and I know that
there will be pockets that care about
this and and if the there’s a persuasive
enough argument for me to really take a
stand I I’m just one of those free
expression guys for those that want to
use it those that don’t want to use it
I’m okay either way and I’m okay with
folks growing up with that so we’ve said
goodbye to a lot of things in you
know and the apostrophe protection
Society is one of them another one or
another couple of folks we might want to
highlight later on in some other
episodes to officially say goodbye but
let’s move on to our curiosity spotlight
so I reached out to Toni Lambert as to
my same curiosity spotlight question so
let’s explain what that is the curiosity
spotlight is a segment we do on the show
where we ask our audience to engage us
by sharing something that they’ve been
curious about that has impacted their
personal professional lives personal or
professional it can be either one or it
can be both but what we found though is
in asking this question is that
curiosity about something ends up
becoming such a part of that person they
might have forgetten where its origins
work and so we reach out to Toni Lambert
he’s a forensic IT guy in fact that is
his handle on Twitter is forensic IT
guys so you can find him there on
Twitter and he explained that curiosity
has helped me make and con and conquer I
make I need you to do that again
curiosity has helped me make a concrete
difference in the security of
organizations through investigations
every new incident is an
opportunity to learn improve and educate
and I love the way he says that and an
IT it really is a learning experience
and his curiosity has obviously made a
difference and and we don’t often give
people credit we reward the results we
don’t necessarily reward curiosity so I
love that we could highlight this with
Tony and that he would be able to go
back and we can encourage him to think
back on how what he does is in part
driven by his curiosity and I want to
know what you guys are curious about I
want to highlight it I want to use
curiosity spotlight and let what you
love and what you’re passionate about
shine out to the audience of this
podcast so please if you want to go
ahead and hit us up you can tag us at
parking thought on Twitter for that you
can use also use the hash tag curiosity
spotlight and all i’ve got an alert that
i’ve got scheduled to be able to have us
find that out there so let’s wrap up
this episode right this is the part
where I tell you that the best way for
you to say thank you for this episode is
to share it with someone you know I’ll
let you decide who that is and I’ll bet
you know someone who’d love to be a part
of the conversation who would love to
know that the apostrophe protection
society is a thing or was a thing and
that the websites up there online if
you’re joining us just for this episode
we’re glad you can make it and if you
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listening using that app and remember ina world where you can choose to beanything why not choose to be grateful
I’m Jacob thanks for joining us today

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